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Podcast — Episode 100

100 Tips. 1 Million Thanks.

November 14, 2017

Written and Produced by Joke and Biagio

Producing Unscripted with Joke and Biagio

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100 Tips. 1 Million Thanks.

Episode 100! Thanks for supporting us over nearly five years. To celebrate, we made you a “thank you” gift. It’s a brand new resource we wish we had when we started in this business. It’s completely free, and it will save you hours of time. Plus, a very special tip from Joke. And of course, a tiny bit of nostalgia from the early days of the podcast.

100 Tips, 1 Million Thanks from Joke and Biagio. Episode 100 of Producing Unscripted.

100 Episodes - Because You’re So Great

When we started this podcast, it was for a lot of reasons.

We wanted people to know what it was really like to work in unscripted television, documentary series, and reality TV.

We also hoped we’d meet other filmmakers who might want to team up with us.

(And we’ve met a lot of you! Stay tuned for an upcoming podcast ep with Todd Lindsay. He trusted us with his true crime project. Together, we made it for CNN and HLN.)

And…

It’s Fun

Look, making TV is awesome, but it can also be stressful. We love what we do, but everyone needs to do something that feels like a break from work. Starting this podcast seemed like a fun hobby that might be useful to a few people. As long as it stayed fun, we’d keep it going.

You’ve all made it a blast, and we’re going to continue.

Our Thank You Gift: A Brand New Resource For You

If you’ve been listening to the podcast for awhile, you know we wanted to do something special for episode 100. More importantly, we wanted to do something for all of you.

Now, one thing we’ve heard again and again is that our podcasts are very helpful. But they’re spread out over nearly five years of posts. And while we hope you’ve enjoyed every one of the episodes, do you really remember every little bit of advice? Probably not. We all need reminding (even us!)

So we decided to take the best 100 pieces of advice, and make you a brand new, free ebook:

Unscripted Television: 100 Tips for Breaking In and Career Success.

Unscripted Television: 100 Tips for Breaking In and Career Success. Free Ebook from Joke and Biagio, Producing Unscripted.

Want the free PDF? Head over and share for free download.

Much more than just a list of podcast episodes, this is a nine chapter book organized by topic. It’s your “at a glance” guide to understanding the unscripted television business.

Chapters include:

We kept today’s episode short and (hopefully) fun. Please have a listen, accept our thanks, and feel free to laugh with us a bit. A few things in today’s episode:

Press that giant PLAY button up top for a gleeful episode with a few surprises, and a lot of “thanks” to all of you.

Let’s Make Some TV Together

Trying to break into unscripted television, documentary series, true crime or reality TV? Want to pitch to our company? Here’s what you should do next:

Episode 100

Transcript

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Announcer: Welcome to producing unscripted. What joke? And Biagio.

Angry Man: Is this some kind of joke?

Unidentified Voice: Biagio.

Biagio: Who did this episode? Welcome to episode.

Unidentified Voice: 100.

Joke: No way!

Biagio: It’s episode 100 and we’re calling it 100 tips 1 million. Thanks. To celebrate, we made you a brand new free resource. A very special tip from joke, and thank goodness I know better than to get ahead of myself. So. So yeah. So I’m not going to start promoting episode 999 just yet. Music courtesy Dave Pelman Music Dave Pelman. Hey everybody. She’s joke.

Joke: Please, Biagio.

Biagio: We’re married. We make unscripted film and television. I want to help you do the same.

Joke: Hopefully by teaming up with us.

Biagio: Well, honey, we made it. Episode 100.

Joke: I can’t believe it.

Biagio: I can’t believe it either. When we started this, we didn’t know if we would. Do, you know, more than 10 or 20? But joke, you trusted me. You went along for this crazy ride with me.

Joke: You didn’t think I’d make it this far?

Biagio: I didn’t. I mean, honestly, I thought she would. At some point, she’d be like, Biagio, you’re done, you’re done. But here we are. Episode 100.

Joke: I know, I think you’re you’re ready for a little flashback, right?

Biagio: I am. Well, you know, here’s the thing with episode 100. So way, way, way a long time ago, going all the way back to June of 2013, episode three of Producing Unscripted, I came up with a rather odd numbering system, and the reason I did was all for today. Here, let’s have a listen. Now.

Unidentified Voice: Just a quick update. We have a new website for this podcast. It’s producing unscripted.

Joke: Com the other nice thing is that if you’re looking for the show notes for these episodes with associated links to things we talk about, just head over to producing unscripted forward slash whatever the number is of the episode you’re looking for. So if you wanted to find show notes for this episode, you’d head over to Producing Unscripted. Three, which shows you that Biagio has high hopes of producing at least 999 episodes with a biweekly premiere. That means we have episodes for 38.4 years. Gee, darling. Do you know how old you’ll be?

Unidentified Voice: You know what? It doesn’t matter how old I’ll be. It’ll only matter how old I’ll feel. And if we’re still doing what we love, I’m gonna feel like a 16 year old kid.

Joke: Good good, good gracious.

Biagio: Good gracious is right.

Joke: You sound so young, darling.

Biagio: I do right? I was like, so peppy. Like you could hear, like the echo. I think we recorded that one in our kitchen. I mean, it was like.

Joke: I think it was our bedroom, actually, while the baby was sleeping. The first baby.

Biagio: Oh, that’s right, we had to go in the bedroom because. Because the kid was asleep and so and we had hardwood floors in there. So it was kind of echoey, but whatever. Good times, man, good times.

Joke: And here we are at 100.

Biagio: And here we are at 100. So my whole numbering scheme finally paid off.

Joke: Only 899 to go.

Biagio: Yeah, only 899 to go. And since we’ve been doing like more like one a month as opposed to one every two weeks, we’re going to be going for like 60 years. So, so yeah. So I’m not going to start promoting episode 999 just yet. Now as we get here to episode 100, we’ve talked for a while, but what are we going to do? What are we going to do? I think that joke knows I’ve actually been more nervous about this episode than I am about our new CNN TV series.

Joke: Yeah, he’s not kidding about that.

Biagio: All right, so to celebrate episode 100, we made you a brand new book, Unscripted Television, 100 tips for Breaking In and Career Success, nine different chapters. It will help you completely understand, at a glance of about a half hour, the entire unscripted television industry, from breaking in to producing to pitching to selling shows.

Joke: Really what we’re doing is we’re handing you back hours of time because instead of listening to all 100 podcasts, you just read these 100 tips and you get the cliff notes.

Biagio: But but it’s a lot more than just the cliff notes. I don’t want you to think this is like some random list of like, hey, episode one, this episode two. This. No, we says laid out like a real book. It’s broken out by subject, covering different aspects of the unscripted television industry. There’s not one tip from every single episode, because some episodes we felt like, well, I don’t know if that’s as an important a tip or they were specific episodes.

Joke: We picked the best 100 pieces of advice.

Biagio: Yeah. The point. The point of the guide is that if you’re new to the unscripted television world, or if you’ve been listening to the podcast for a long time and are like, wow, I can’t remember half of what I’ve heard over the last half decade, this book will give you everything you need to know. It’s free. Just like our other free guide How to Pitch a Reality Show. And you can head over to this episode Show Notes, which you’ll be able to find at Producing Unscripted.

Unidentified Voice: Hundred.

Biagio: Produce against that com slash 100, and there’ll be a link to the free e-book just like our other one. It’s. You can read the entire thing online if you want to. It’s all right there on the web page. If you’d like to download a free PDF, all you got to do is share it, tweet it, Facebook it, plus one at whatever. And we’d really appreciate the share if you do like the book. But more than anything, we wanted to put together something for you.

Joke: Well, we say we we have to give credit where credit is due.

Biagio: Oh big time. I want to give a huge shout out to our Incredible Joke Productions team member Christina Barton.

Joke: Who literally listened to, you know, all 99 since this is 100 podcasts again and pulled together a huge list of all kinds of tips and tricks and ended up helping us curate it down to the the top 100. And that took her several months.

Biagio: So she literally spent several months getting everything together. And then like we spent like about two weeks actually finishing the book, so could not have done it without her. And she now knows the podcast probably better than any of us.

Joke: It was a huge undertaking.

Biagio: And I didn’t want to listen to myself for 99 episodes. So thank you so much, Christina.

Young Child: You get a good star and a unicorn.

Biagio: Now, one last bit. One last thing, though.

Joke: We started pulling all these together, and then we realized you started having the software program, like, number it and then you’re like, oh, we only have 99.

Biagio: That’s true, that’s true. Yeah. When we got to the end of the list, it turned out there were only 99 tips. And I was like, that is not going to work. And joke said.

Joke: Instead of going back, I said, well, we’ll make a new one. That way. There’s something special about this podcast.

Biagio: You mean the 100th tip can come in the 100th episode?

Joke: Yes it can.

Biagio: Wow, that is amazing and wonderfully cheesy and all the best kind of ways.

Joke: I was cooking dinner at the time, I just didn’t. It just came to me, you know?

Biagio: All right, so this may be the first podcast to ever give you the last line of a book first, but that’s what we’re going to do. Joke. Talk us through tip 100.

Joke: Love it or leave it.

Biagio: Love it or leave it.

Joke: That’s the way to look at this business, man. There are so many ups and so many downs, and there’s a lot of hard work and there’s a lot of heartbreak, and you have to love all of it, or you just got to leave it because it’s it’s taxing. And there’s a there’s a lot of promises and a lot of possible reward and, and, and a lot of good things can come out of doing this work. But there’s also a lot of, you know, downs and obstacles and things where you’re like, why am. I doing this again? So you really have to love it. And if you think you want to be in this business and you get started and you never quite figure out in the first few years why you might want to be doing this, and then maybe this one isn’t for you, and then save yourself the heartache and distress and all of that stuff, because all that stuff is probably, I would say, 80%, but that 20% of awesomeness is so good that it makes it worth it.

Biagio: It does make. And sometimes that 20% of awesomeness feels more like 3%, but it is still so good it makes everything else worth it. And I think it’s an important point because all of us have dreams, right? Sometimes those dreams are good ideas, and honestly, sometimes they’re not. You know, I wanted to be in the NBA really bad. I’m five foot six and a little heavy, so that was not a good dream for me to have, no matter how bad I wanted to have it happen. It was not going to happen for me. You know, luckily with unscripted television, you know, we had some skills that actually made it work for us and we were happy with the work. We understood what the work was going to be and it appealed to us. So I think, like anything else, you need to really understand what goes into working in this industry. And honestly, that’s what this new book is for. Again, free download, read through it. It’s really going to get you thinking about the industry from every different angle in an organized fashion. That makes sense.

Joke: I enjoyed going through it again and again, because I felt like some of them are good reminders for even us that have been in the business a long time, and I do find it inspirational, and it does kind of spark to the passion of why we got into this business in the first place. And it also is very, you know, pragmatic and realistic about, you know, the obstacles that we do face within this business. You know, Biagio, who is our constant cheerleader over here at Joke Productions, which we appreciate so much. But even when, you know, we’re having a very frustrating day or, you know, you just, you know, you get a pass or, you know, you get bad news, you know, Biagio will always be like, listen, I used to deliver pizzas for a living like this beats that. And it does, you know. And not that there’s anything wrong with delivering pieces for a living, because it paid our bills for quite some time. But this does beat that for us. And so, you know, those are personal decisions we all have to make. And hopefully this book inspiring but also pragmatic and realistic about the business so that you can find out whether this is for you.

Biagio: Well said honey. Well said. So there you go. I really hope you guys enjoy the book. I hope many of you read it and decide you love this business even more. You know, as always, we do this podcast because we hope to we hope to save some of you from spending tons of money that you don’t need to spend. We hope that some of you are interested in teaming up with us, and that we meet new, great filmmakers and some of you we hope you just listen to. Because me and Joker are a couple of kooks. Or at least I’m a kook. And and Joe straightens me out. But but we love doing this podcast and we’re going to keep doing it, so we’ll be back in.

Unidentified Voice: 2018.

Biagio: This is going to be the last five podcast of this year, but we’ll be back in January of 2018 with all new episodes we’re going to have on more guests. We’re going to explore some new areas that we haven’t talked about before. And yes, there are a.

Unidentified Voice: Few more.

Biagio: Free resources coming, though I haven’t told jokes yet.

Unidentified Voice: What? Oh, good.

Biagio: Well, there’s new resources coming. So that’s it. Thank you everyone for listening. It’s been a great first 100. We can only do 899 more of these. And then my numbering scheme is all screwed up. So you know I really.

Joke: Count down.

Biagio: I can’t promise more than 50 years of episodes from here going forward because I’m not I’m not I haven’t done the math yet. But, you know, I think you can count on us for for at least another, you know, at least, at least another decade.

Joke: Wow. Good lord.

Biagio: Or something like that. Anyway, thanks for listening, and we’ll see you in January.

Joke: See you in January. Happy new year.

Announcer: Happy new year. Producing Unscripted with Joke and Biagio.